<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25634207716108558</id><updated>2011-10-09T15:33:57.179-04:00</updated><category term='General'/><category term='Progress'/><title type='text'>John P. Logsdon's Writing Adventure</title><subtitle type='html'></subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>John</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15567960445942428314</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qQbnJjVGv-I/TfjYZ4VU7QI/AAAAAAAAAAQ/lU7FoI3Z2oA/s220/jnl2.png'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>24</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25634207716108558.post-478825930391404997</id><published>2011-09-23T10:32:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2011-09-23T10:33:00.240-04:00</updated><title type='text'>First Draft Complete</title><content type='html'>Finished the first draft last week of the s.f. comedy. Chris Young (who is co-authoring) is now going over it, taking notes, etc. He's going to take the next two weeks to do that and then we'll get back together and review everything.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After that, I'll start working on the second draft and finally the third draft. When the third draft is done the plan is to submit it to The Editorial Department for a full review before we move on to shooting for publication.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But while that's going on we'll be well on our way working on book #2. So far we have three book concepts in the series. The plan is to just keep writing on this series for as long as possible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would love to describe the series but Chris and I agreed to keep things under wraps for now. If we're unable to find publication by the end of 2012 we'll start releasing the books on our own, so one way or the other 2013 either marks the release of these titles or marks the release of the information on the titles because we'll have a publisher (crossing fingers!). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25634207716108558-478825930391404997?l=johnplogsdon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/feeds/478825930391404997/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2011/09/first-draft-complete.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/478825930391404997'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/478825930391404997'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2011/09/first-draft-complete.html' title='First Draft Complete'/><author><name>KrethX</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q6RKGam_muA/TpH3gIzxN2I/AAAAAAAAAIs/-oO4_5tsHoU/s220/KrethxCover150x150.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25634207716108558.post-1742052309538692134</id><published>2011-09-06T16:55:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2011-09-06T16:55:15.423-04:00</updated><title type='text'>50k words on s.f. comedy</title><content type='html'>Just over two months into the science fiction comedy book and we're less than 2k words away from 50k. I'm averaging about 2-4k words per day when I'm able to give it proper time. Unfortunately, there has been a lot of travel over the last couple of weeks and that's eaten into things pretty heavily.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Proposed scenes in the outline is at 65. We're currently at scene 36. We yanked a couple of scenes along the way and combined a few others, but I'm sure that a number of scene will get squished in as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, I know what you're thinking: &lt;i style="color: blue;"&gt;erm...if you're at 36 scenes and already at 50k words, you're gonna have a lot of words when you're done!&lt;/i&gt; True, but that's where second drafts come in handy. Possibly. If it's anything like my last book I'll shave about 10k and add about 15k. OOPS. So, yeah, it may end up being a little on the large side as far as page count goes, but a story, to be told proper-like, needs as many words as it damn well needs. :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At this rate it looks like the first draft will be done by the end of September. Of course we all know that life gets in the way more often than not, so October is more likely.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The main thing I love is that fact that this s.f. universe is just clicking so easily for me. The characters and the world just flow for some reason. I was decently comfy with the characters in my fantasy comedy too, but it's just not quite the same. One benefit of this is that I'm learning a bit more about why these characters work. That's cool because I'll use that information to ask some new questions of my characters in the fantasy book. Fun stuff!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25634207716108558-1742052309538692134?l=johnplogsdon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/feeds/1742052309538692134/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2011/09/50k-words-on-sf-comedy.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/1742052309538692134'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/1742052309538692134'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2011/09/50k-words-on-sf-comedy.html' title='50k words on s.f. comedy'/><author><name>KrethX</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q6RKGam_muA/TpH3gIzxN2I/AAAAAAAAAIs/-oO4_5tsHoU/s220/KrethxCover150x150.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25634207716108558.post-4368765419949864560</id><published>2011-07-26T21:54:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2011-07-26T22:01:56.471-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Progress'/><title type='text'>Is he still writing?</title><content type='html'>I certainly am! More than ever, actually.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Things have been moving ever so smoothly on some fronts and not so much on others. I finished up the second and third drafts of the "A Quest of Undoing" and have now set it aside for a couple of months so that I can get a fresh perspective on it before going forward.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;During the downtime of that I've been working with Chris Young on a new s.f. comedy series and we're flying! The idea just clicked perfectly for us. The outline of the first book came together in a week and I've already written the first 20 scenes (first drafts). It's a fun read and we're having a blast working on it. I tend to write a full scene every night and sometimes I get two a day on the weekend.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The main things I've learned thus far is that no matter how many times you rewrite your story it's not enough. At some point I know I have to just bite the bullet and recognize that this is the best it's going to get and ship it off for rejection! haha Fortunately, I've been in the entertainment industry for the better part of my life so I'm used to taking criticism. You have to have a thick skin to be a creative type!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyhoo, the current plan is to finish up the first draft of the s.f. book, go back to a final once-over on the fantasy book, and then rewrite the s.f. book again...and again...and again... :)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25634207716108558-4368765419949864560?l=johnplogsdon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/feeds/4368765419949864560/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2011/07/is-he-still-writing.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/4368765419949864560'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/4368765419949864560'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2011/07/is-he-still-writing.html' title='Is he still writing?'/><author><name>John</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15567960445942428314</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qQbnJjVGv-I/TfjYZ4VU7QI/AAAAAAAAAAQ/lU7FoI3Z2oA/s220/jnl2.png'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25634207716108558.post-9030740517263144051</id><published>2010-12-22T11:17:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2010-12-22T11:22:18.214-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='General'/><title type='text'>Rewriting #1 started</title><content type='html'>I'm actually a few days into the rewrite. This is probably the most challenging part for me because the goal is to make as close to a real piece of work as possible. I can write stories very fast, typically, but polishing them is a bit more challenging. I'm sure that's the case with everyone except for those lucky few.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's a bit slow-going at the moment. I have like a page a day at this point. Hopefully when I get on a roll that will improve to 5-10 per day, but since I only have an hour each night that may be a bit much to hope for. The thing I want to avoid is flying through again. Flying through (for me) is first-draft writing. So far I've caught myself flying a couple of times and had to slam on the brakes and go back again.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is quite nifty to see the story turning into something that looks...well...real. Lot's of work, but I'm digging it so far! :D&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25634207716108558-9030740517263144051?l=johnplogsdon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/feeds/9030740517263144051/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/12/rewriting-1-started.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/9030740517263144051'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/9030740517263144051'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/12/rewriting-1-started.html' title='Rewriting #1 started'/><author><name>KrethX</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q6RKGam_muA/TpH3gIzxN2I/AAAAAAAAAIs/-oO4_5tsHoU/s220/KrethxCover150x150.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25634207716108558.post-1809206403604032716</id><published>2010-12-16T10:57:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2010-12-16T11:02:46.565-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='General'/><title type='text'>Writing junk</title><content type='html'>Was up pretty late last night working on just marking up the story. I'm essentially finding that the majority of my descriptions are going bye-bye while the dialog is mostly untouched.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why can't I just have a book of nothing but dialog published? :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Actually, it's not quite that bad. There are a number of places where the description is decent. Some of it even caused that "I wrote that?" awe-based reaction. Most, though, was more of that "I wrote that?" depression-based reaction.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm about 50 pages of markups away from being done with that phase. Then it's off to rewrite #1.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On other fronts, the s.f. comedy bit is coming along in its first draft. I'm having fun with that one and I'm also learning to address some of the goofs I'm finding in my Whizzfiddle markups. Hopefully that will translate to fewer issues in the next story. We'll see!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25634207716108558-1809206403604032716?l=johnplogsdon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/feeds/1809206403604032716/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/12/writing-junk.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/1809206403604032716'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/1809206403604032716'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/12/writing-junk.html' title='Writing junk'/><author><name>KrethX</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q6RKGam_muA/TpH3gIzxN2I/AAAAAAAAAIs/-oO4_5tsHoU/s220/KrethxCover150x150.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25634207716108558.post-8887020358108577661</id><published>2010-10-26T01:18:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2010-10-26T01:24:16.200-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='General'/><title type='text'>Time to do first edits</title><content type='html'>I know it's been a few weeks since I've posted here, but that's because I finished the first draft of the book and had to step away from that book until now. I have printed it all out and read it. I like it! There are a number of inconsistencies, typos, and a need to flesh out a lot of the areas, but it's pretty nifty.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have also been working on the new book, and that's been eating up some of the time as well. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Either way, I've not gone away from doing this stuff. I'm still very much into it and rocking along. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now with the edits underway on the first book, things will slow down on the progress of the second book...'tis the way it is! :D&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25634207716108558-8887020358108577661?l=johnplogsdon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/feeds/8887020358108577661/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/10/time-to-do-first-edits.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/8887020358108577661'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/8887020358108577661'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/10/time-to-do-first-edits.html' title='Time to do first edits'/><author><name>KrethX</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q6RKGam_muA/TpH3gIzxN2I/AAAAAAAAAIs/-oO4_5tsHoU/s220/KrethxCover150x150.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25634207716108558.post-3139603101266999408</id><published>2010-09-21T10:10:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2010-09-21T10:15:28.565-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='General'/><title type='text'>First Draft Complete</title><content type='html'>It's hard to believe, but I actually finished the first draft of the book in right around 30 days. I know that the hard work starts now, but just getting the first draft done is something to be happy about.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now I take a few weeks away from this one so that I can return to it with a fresh set of eyes. Then the editing and second draft begins. I have to admit that I'm a little worried about this part! It's gonna be quite a challenge. Fortunately, each challenge just serves to make for better writing, so it's a good thing. :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tonight I'll start in on the first draft of the next book! (well, okay, plotting a blueprint first, but it's all part and parcel...)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25634207716108558-3139603101266999408?l=johnplogsdon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/feeds/3139603101266999408/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/09/first-draft-complete.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/3139603101266999408'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/3139603101266999408'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/09/first-draft-complete.html' title='First Draft Complete'/><author><name>KrethX</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q6RKGam_muA/TpH3gIzxN2I/AAAAAAAAAIs/-oO4_5tsHoU/s220/KrethxCover150x150.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25634207716108558.post-4646007737955928534</id><published>2010-09-18T12:18:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2010-09-18T12:28:57.396-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='General'/><title type='text'>Almost done</title><content type='html'>I'm soooo close to finishing draft #1. I have roughly 10 scenes to go. Yes, I'm aware that this is only the beginning, but getting this far is a heck of an accomplishment. 50k words is a lot of words! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The cool part is that it's been fun all the way through, even when the characters disagreed with my blueprint. For the most part they were pleased with it, but now and then I had to stray from my path and join theirs. It's their story, after all. Their ideas were better than mine anyway. :)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25634207716108558-4646007737955928534?l=johnplogsdon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/feeds/4646007737955928534/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/09/almost-done.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/4646007737955928534'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/4646007737955928534'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/09/almost-done.html' title='Almost done'/><author><name>KrethX</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q6RKGam_muA/TpH3gIzxN2I/AAAAAAAAAIs/-oO4_5tsHoU/s220/KrethxCover150x150.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25634207716108558.post-3934117023559355099</id><published>2010-09-09T09:36:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2010-09-09T09:41:29.208-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='General'/><title type='text'>Past the halfway mark (first draft)</title><content type='html'>I'm averaging about 1,300 words per day now and that's gotten me to roughly 34,000 words now. Shocking, really. I could probably write the other 30k in a week, but I don't want to rush anything and end up with a cruddy story.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Characters are coming along nicely and the plot seems to be folding into my plans without much departure. The characters will nudge me into different directions now and then. Who am I to argue? It's their story. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the more interesting things with building a full word vs. just a little story is that more and more people crop up that have potential to have their own stories written about them. On the one hand this is cool because the more content possibility, the more fun; on the gripping hand (Larry Niven pull there...hehe) I have to be careful not to make things too convoluted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So far it's a blast doing this. I have a few other story ideas that have come out of writing this and also just out of how I'm viewing the world now. The world is always full of useful content, you just have to train yourself to look for it.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25634207716108558-3934117023559355099?l=johnplogsdon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/feeds/3934117023559355099/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/09/past-halfway-mark-first-draft.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/3934117023559355099'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/3934117023559355099'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/09/past-halfway-mark-first-draft.html' title='Past the halfway mark (first draft)'/><author><name>KrethX</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q6RKGam_muA/TpH3gIzxN2I/AAAAAAAAAIs/-oO4_5tsHoU/s220/KrethxCover150x150.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25634207716108558.post-7990195711262061487</id><published>2010-08-26T13:40:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2010-08-26T13:43:11.908-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='General'/><title type='text'>Flying along now</title><content type='html'>This MyNovel software is kicking. I've been writing pretty consistently anyway, but now I can see my daily progress. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I just took a quick lunch break and opened up the software to run the progress meter thingy. Says I'm averaging about 920 words per night. Not too shabby, since I've been shooting for 1,000 per night. Having this kind of feedback makes me want to keep after it on a daily basis. I guess it's akin to losing weight. As long as the scale keeps showing less with each weighing, you stay motivated to continue on.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25634207716108558-7990195711262061487?l=johnplogsdon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/feeds/7990195711262061487/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/08/flying-along-now.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/7990195711262061487'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/7990195711262061487'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/08/flying-along-now.html' title='Flying along now'/><author><name>KrethX</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q6RKGam_muA/TpH3gIzxN2I/AAAAAAAAAIs/-oO4_5tsHoU/s220/KrethxCover150x150.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25634207716108558.post-1016539082985816036</id><published>2010-08-25T00:36:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2010-08-25T00:42:19.021-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='General'/><title type='text'>Still writing...</title><content type='html'>I know I haven't written a post here, but that's cause I've been writing the story! I picked up a couple of cool programs to work with. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One is a mind mapping software package that I used for laying out all the scenes. You can get it free at: &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page"&gt;http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The other is a writing package that I bought about a year ago and kind of forgot about it. I know that's dumb...oops. Anyway, it's a neat little word processor and character layouts and tracking stuff...etc. Snag that here: &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.mynovel.biz/"&gt;http://www.mynovel.biz/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So far I'm on pace at 880 words per day. Sometimes I can only squeeze out 500 and other times I get 2k out. At this pace the program says that I'll have my 65k words done by Oct 17. If I get a full hour each night before falling asleep, that may happen. Somehow I think it'll take a little longer. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I'd be happy with having a first draft done by then. Of course, the re-write that follows will take another couple of months, but at least the first pass would be finished.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25634207716108558-1016539082985816036?l=johnplogsdon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/feeds/1016539082985816036/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/08/still-writing.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/1016539082985816036'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/1016539082985816036'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/08/still-writing.html' title='Still writing...'/><author><name>KrethX</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q6RKGam_muA/TpH3gIzxN2I/AAAAAAAAAIs/-oO4_5tsHoU/s220/KrethxCover150x150.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25634207716108558.post-1500184498128002409</id><published>2010-08-04T17:25:00.004-04:00</published><updated>2010-08-04T17:33:24.047-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='General'/><title type='text'>The Editorial Department Responds</title><content type='html'>I sent in the first 10 pages of "A Quest of Undoing" so that I could get a feeling for what The Editorial Department (TED) folks would be like. Before I got back their report I spent a bit of time reading two books:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;* "Thanks, But This Isn't For Us" by Morrell&lt;br /&gt;* "Self Editing for Fiction Writers" by Browne and King&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Essentially, I had the feeling that I was being a bit to descriptive now that I've fallen onto that side of the tracks. The books confirmed this, and the report I got back from one of the editors at the TED said the same thing. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is quite freeing for me. It has taken me forever to spit out 10,000 words for my final assignment to the Greenleaf Workshop. I used to be able to write 10k words in a day, but I've gotten into this entire second-guessing everything I do bit that it crippled my speed. It's no fault of the workshop. I just somehow got into my head that I needed to be a "Writer" (note the capital "W"). Time to stop that and just plain write!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm still quite happy that my descriptions are better, but I'm even happier that I don't really need as much as I thought I did. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Back to speedy writing for me. I'll edit and fill in the blanks where needed when I'm finished with the manuscript. Slashing and cutting should be done after the writing, not during it...at least for me.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25634207716108558-1500184498128002409?l=johnplogsdon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/feeds/1500184498128002409/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/08/editorial-department-responds.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/1500184498128002409'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/1500184498128002409'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/08/editorial-department-responds.html' title='The Editorial Department Responds'/><author><name>KrethX</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q6RKGam_muA/TpH3gIzxN2I/AAAAAAAAAIs/-oO4_5tsHoU/s220/KrethxCover150x150.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25634207716108558.post-931578901780260735</id><published>2010-07-29T11:58:00.003-04:00</published><updated>2010-07-29T12:04:43.589-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='General'/><title type='text'>Reworking the Plot</title><content type='html'>After a fair bit of thinking on "A Quest of Undoing" I decided to rework the plot. The original plot was okay, but it just didn't have enough conflict and issues to make it interesting throughout. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The new plot concept has a fair bit of twists and turns, which makes for an overall better story. Well, at least a more interesting story.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fortunately, most of what I've written up to this point is still applicable to the new plot layout. I have to do a little fiddling with the text, but nothing major.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I've found that plotting is more fun than writing. I suppose this is logical since plotting a story doesn't require all the little details and descriptions that the actual writing does. This is likely also why everyone is a "writer" but nobody writes...they all just plot. We all have stories to tell, it's just that pesky little writing it all down bit that gets in the way.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25634207716108558-931578901780260735?l=johnplogsdon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/feeds/931578901780260735/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/07/reworking-plot.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/931578901780260735'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/931578901780260735'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/07/reworking-plot.html' title='Reworking the Plot'/><author><name>KrethX</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q6RKGam_muA/TpH3gIzxN2I/AAAAAAAAAIs/-oO4_5tsHoU/s220/KrethxCover150x150.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25634207716108558.post-383487321931540129</id><published>2010-07-26T10:22:00.004-04:00</published><updated>2010-07-26T10:30:21.967-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='General'/><title type='text'>Writing every day doesn't necessarily mean...</title><content type='html'>...that you're writing every day. Huh?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I see a lot of people say that you have to sit and write something every single day if you're a writer. Writer's write! Yep, that's true. But I think that if you're seriously working on your story's elements, plot, conflicts, etc. then you are writing. No, you're not slapping down line after line of dialog or description, but you are crafting your story.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This can be an easy excuse for why you're not actually putting words to paper, of course. The only person who knows if you're practicing writing-avoidance is you. You can fool yourself if you want to be someone who is "a writer," certainly, but if you actually want to be a writer then you won't do that. In my estimation, someone who really wants to be writer will not just sit back and do nothing but design. At the same time, this person will also not just work on pen-to-paper exercises without worrying about design. It's an all-encompassing process and it's &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;all &lt;/span&gt;writing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Designing, plotting, character issues, and so on are the key points to success. You can have all the style in the world, but if your story goes nowhere or is flat then nobody will care about your style.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, for me anyway, it's not just working on descriptions and dialog that makes up the "write every day" motif. It's the full process of what it takes to build a story from the ground up.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25634207716108558-383487321931540129?l=johnplogsdon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/feeds/383487321931540129/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/07/writing-every-day-doesnt-necessarily.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/383487321931540129'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/383487321931540129'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/07/writing-every-day-doesnt-necessarily.html' title='Writing every day doesn&apos;t necessarily mean...'/><author><name>KrethX</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q6RKGam_muA/TpH3gIzxN2I/AAAAAAAAAIs/-oO4_5tsHoU/s220/KrethxCover150x150.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25634207716108558.post-6506205839458310479</id><published>2010-07-22T15:32:00.007-04:00</published><updated>2010-07-22T16:07:00.900-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='General'/><title type='text'>To thine own style be true</title><content type='html'>I know that limiting character viewpoints is a wise thing, but each of my main characters has to show the world through their eyes at some point in the story or I just sit staring at the screen with my jaw slightly slack.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was trying to keep it to just the protagonist and the antagonist. Really, I tried. Alas, I cannot. It's just too stagnating. So I'm going to open it up and let them all have their say. It flows better for me as a writer and hopefully it will feel smoother for the millions &lt;cough&gt; of readers that read my tomes (love that word). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is not to say that I'm going to write in God mode. I'm not that talented. However, I see the world as &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;protagonists &lt;/span&gt;and &lt;span style="font-style:italic;"&gt;antagonists&lt;/span&gt;, not just one vs. one. It's the way I think and the way I most comfortably put finger-to-keyboard. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So will this harm my ability to get published? I hope not. Many writers have multiple viewpoint characters these days, especially in the humor genre.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25634207716108558-6506205839458310479?l=johnplogsdon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/feeds/6506205839458310479/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/07/to-thine-own-style-be-true.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/6506205839458310479'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/6506205839458310479'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/07/to-thine-own-style-be-true.html' title='To thine own style be true'/><author><name>KrethX</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q6RKGam_muA/TpH3gIzxN2I/AAAAAAAAAIs/-oO4_5tsHoU/s220/KrethxCover150x150.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25634207716108558.post-3249800716593397201</id><published>2010-07-10T13:23:00.002-04:00</published><updated>2010-07-22T13:17:47.063-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='General'/><title type='text'>Description, dialog, and merging</title><content type='html'>I can't believe it, but I'm actually feeling a bit more confident about  doing description in my writing. For the longest time I was captain  dialog, always able to link line after line of dialog pretty decently.  But when it came to description, I was just awful.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I still can't  say that I have the complete feel of description down, but it's  definitely getting better. Why though?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, I started making the  description more action-based. The character either thinks about things  or fiddle with stuff, etc. It allows me to continue "walking" through  the character's viewpoint while engaging with the environment. So, I  take my captain dialog hat and make it captain inner-dialog, as it were.  From there I'm able to detour just enough to fill in the background  details in a way that (at least in my estimation) doesn't take the  reader out of the story. In the past the mix was pretty bad, but now  it's just not good. :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I keep hearing people say "Just write  it and get it finished. You'll never finish if you keep rewriting it!"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I  agree to a point. My purpose at the moment is not to write the book as  much as it is to learn the craft a little better. I could write the book  in 30 days, but it would be quite a bumpy read. Speedy writing for me  is simple. I can easily slam out 1,000 words in 30 minutes. With a book  being around 60,000 words, well, you do the math (I can't). But, again, it would  be rough to read at best.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some may say that it's the re-write  that is going to take longer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Agreed. However, my feeling is that  if I spend the time now to get description to flow as comfortably for  me as dialog does, then the rewrite will (hopefully) be far less  painful. I have the entire story (many, actually) in my head. I'm not  worried about forgetting it. I'm worried about having to write 15 times  instead of twice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm lazy, people! :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, the  description side of things is coming along much better and I'm hoping it  will be as smooth as the dialog within a few more weeks. Then I can  write the book and work on improving all facets of my writing as a  combined unit since, with any luck, the description will no longer be  the red-headed stepchild.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25634207716108558-3249800716593397201?l=johnplogsdon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/feeds/3249800716593397201/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/07/description-dialog-and-merging.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/3249800716593397201'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/3249800716593397201'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/07/description-dialog-and-merging.html' title='Description, dialog, and merging'/><author><name>KrethX</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q6RKGam_muA/TpH3gIzxN2I/AAAAAAAAAIs/-oO4_5tsHoU/s220/KrethxCover150x150.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25634207716108558.post-1746447932498493411</id><published>2010-06-26T14:36:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2010-07-21T14:45:57.276-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Writing was delayed...back to it now</title><content type='html'>I've been trying to get the writing going for at least one hour a day,  but it's just not happening yet.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;My grandmother has  been pretty ill as of late so I spent a week up north both working and  visiting. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Work has been quite busy lately so I  find myself working at nights and on the weekends a lot. By the time  I've stepped away from the computer after working I'm too tired to start  writing. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I finally finished a major milestone  on my work projects, so I'm hoping that the hours get a little more  normal again. I do plan on writing some this weekend to get the juices  flowing again. It would be great to just jump in at any time and pick up  where I left off, but this doesn't work for me. It usually takes a few  days of consistent writing before I'm in the groove again. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Somehow  I have to get a pattern that is largely static, even when other things  vie for more attention. I'm thinking maybe mornings, but I'm so foggy in  the mornings that I don't know how well that will work. Something's  gotta give cause I wanna write! :)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25634207716108558-1746447932498493411?l=johnplogsdon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/feeds/1746447932498493411/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/06/writing-was-delayedback-to-it-now.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/1746447932498493411'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/1746447932498493411'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/06/writing-was-delayedback-to-it-now.html' title='Writing was delayed...back to it now'/><author><name>KrethX</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q6RKGam_muA/TpH3gIzxN2I/AAAAAAAAAIs/-oO4_5tsHoU/s220/KrethxCover150x150.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25634207716108558.post-1252354482330008678</id><published>2010-06-03T12:24:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2010-07-21T14:45:27.027-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='General'/><title type='text'>Writing Comedy - My Observations</title><content type='html'>First off, when I say "writing comedy" I'm not talking about jokes. I'm  talking about a fictional tale that has either a humorous slant or  comedic intent. There are different angles one can take when writing in  this fashion. &lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;For example, let's say that you have a  scene with three men (I'm not being sexist here, it's just...okay,  maybe I am being sexist here...sorry) that are about to rob a bank.  These probably aren't funny, but that's okay. I'm just trying to get the  idea across of how I'm seeing different approaches.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Option  1: Environment&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;They had  their masks in place and their guns were at the ready. Larry, of course,  had his mask on backwards so he kept bumping into Curly. After Moe got  hit by Curly a third time, he spun around to knock the fat man upside  the head. Then he saw Larry.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"You  dimwit," Moe said, stuffing the gun in his pocket, which turned out to  have a hole in it. The gun plummeted to the ground. Moe picked it up and  slammed it in his other pocket and then reached out to adjust Larry's  mask. "You got that on wrong."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;Larry,  expecting to get walloped, raised his gun and waved it about. He finally  settled to pointing it toward a dim, large shadowy figure that had a  bit of an odor emanating from it. This turned out to be Curly. Curly  jumped back and knocked his head on a low-hanging AC unit. His eyes  crossed and he cannoned into Moe. Both their guns fired as they hit the  ground. This scared the crap out of Larry, whose mask was still  improperly seated and he started shooting. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"Stop  firing, you moron!" Moe kicked out and knocked Larry from his feet. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;Larry's gun  clanked on the ground, sliding to a halt at the feet of a police  officer.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;In  this type, it's all about physical humor. There isn't much in the way of  intellectual worry. You just have to get the people falling around,  bumping into things, and generally using the environment as the medium  of antagonism. Personally, I find this type boring.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;hr /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Option  2: The boss and his dumb helpers&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;Jergenson  moved to the edge of the building and peered around. He put out a hand  so his accomplices would hold back as he swept the scene. Banner bumped  into him. It was the third time in as many stops. Once, he could  understand. He could even tolerate twice under most circumstances, but  three times when they were about to put their lives on the line was just  too much.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"Banner," Jergensen said calmly, not bothering to turn  around. "It is most important that you watch your footing and keep your  mind sharp."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"It's not me, boss," Banner  grumbled. "I stop when you stop. Giff keeps bumpin' me."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"What's  that?" Giff asked, quite loudly.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;Jergensen  turned about to hush Giff and found that the oaf had put his mask on  incorrectly. He rolled his eyes pushed both men back into the alleyway.  He motioned Banner to help fix the situation as he paced, his thoughts  racing. Was it really worth spending more years in prison because of  these two idiots? The answer was obvious, but one didn't just rob a bank  all by oneself, right? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;This  methodology can be great if it's done well (unlike above, for example).  The problem here is that there is only so much you can do with this. I  can't see an entire novel working this way. However, I can see it work  as a subplot in the novel. Maybe the antagonist has to deal with his  idiotic helpers as he's trying to thwart the protagonist. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;This,  actually, is pretty common in movies and books. But imagine trying to  go through an entire novel with nothing but this stuff. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;hr /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Option  3: Monty Python&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;Carl got to  the edge of the building and motioned his team to halt. They bumped him  straight out into the open. He quickly jumped back around the corner.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"What was  all that then?" He stormed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"Wasn't my  fault," Bert said, jerking his thumb back toward Herb. "He keeps bumping  me."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"I can't be blamed for that," Herb argued, looking in  the general direction of Carl and Bert. "These silly masks make it  impossible to see anything."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"You've got  it on wrong," Carl said.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"I have  not."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"You most certainly have. You've got the hole in the  back."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"That's where it's supposed to be," Herb was now  talking to the wall. "Else where would my ponytail stick through?"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"It's not  right for a man to have a ponytail anyway," Bert piped up.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"That's  it," Herb turned toward a garbage can. "I have had it up to here with  you and your accusations," Herb &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;poked at the can with an angry finger.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt; "There is  nothing wrong with a man having a ponytail. My grandfather had one, my  father had one, and my brother still has one."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"My  grandmother had one," said Carl.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"Exactly,"  Bert put in. "My mother had one too, and my sister still has one. Ain't  rightly a thing for a man to have is all I'm saying."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"You're  saying I'm womanly then?"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;The two had  their fists up, albeit Herb was squaring off with a low-hanging AC  unit. Carl saw their plan falling apart and thought best to attempt  rescue before calling it a day.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"Stop," he  barked. "Now, listen. Herb is mostly right and the Bert is right the  rest of the way," he cleared his throat as he digested his own words.  "But Herb, if you can't see where you're going you're not going to help  much with this heist, got it?"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;Herb put  his hands on his hips. "It's frustrating, is all. They should have put  two holes in these things."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"Maybe they  have a ladies model," Bert offered.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"That's  it!"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;Carl removed his mask and threw it in the trashcan as  Herb began pummeling the street lamp.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;Most  of what I've read in this type of writing shows very little in the way  of description. It's a lot about dialog bouncing about. Also, there is a  lot of misdirection. The characters are supposed to be focused on one  aspect of the story, but they keep drifting off into things that are  irrelevant. This is mostly what makes it funny to me. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;One  issue with writing like this is potential publishers may see it as  unpolished. "Where's the description and pacing?" That's the point,  though. The pacing is supposed to be erratic. That's actually what helps  make it funny.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;hr /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Option  4: Stressful&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;Jim stepped  into the alley, seeing the two people that Rick had set him up with. He  was promised they were professionals, but they looked pretty shoddy to  him.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"You're the ones that Rick sent?"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"Yeah," the  fat one answered. "Stan and Steve."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"I don't  know if this is going to work," murmured Jim. He looked over Stan. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"Whaddya  mean?" Stan said.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;Jim grimaced a bit and motioned a  bit towards the fat man. "You know, we have to be able to run and all."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"Yeah, so?"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"Well, I  mean run. Not just a little fast-paced walking."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;Stan looked  at Steve. Steve shrugged.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"If you got  something to say," Stan grumbled. "Say it."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;Jim put his  hands up. "I'm just saying that if the cops show up we're going to have  to get away in a hurry. I know I'm capable of that and it looks like  Steve is too, but one of us may be a little too...you know..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"No," Stan  said, crossing his arms. "I don't know."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"Oh, you  don't know?" Jim scoffed accusingly. "How can you not know?"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"Apparently  I'm not as observant as you," said Stan while cracking his knuckles.  "Why don't you tell me?"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"So you're telling me that you  don't know why &lt;i&gt;one &lt;/i&gt;of us would have problems running from the  cops?"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"That's what I'm saying."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;Jim turned  to Steve. "Can you believe this guy?"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;Steve  shrugged again. "Tell him what you're saying."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"What, like  you don't know either?"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;Another shrug.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"Fine, it's  just that you're...you know..."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;Stan leaned  towards Jim. He didn't look all that happy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt;     &lt;/span&gt;"...you  know," Jim pursed his lips and nodded compassionately. "...a bit  oversized."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;This  is kind of like the Larry David style of writing. It's the case of  having your main character struggling to say what all of us are thinking  while the reader cringes going, "No...don't do it!!!" It's stressful  comedy. I love the way this stuff rolls out, but I think this is harder  to pull off in writing than in acting though. At least it is for me.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;hr /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;I'm  sure there are other types of methods for writing comedy that I'm not  seeing, so if anyone knows of any please lemme know so I can keep my  study moving!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25634207716108558-1252354482330008678?l=johnplogsdon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/feeds/1252354482330008678/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/06/writing-comedy-my-observations.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/1252354482330008678'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/1252354482330008678'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/06/writing-comedy-my-observations.html' title='Writing Comedy - My Observations'/><author><name>KrethX</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q6RKGam_muA/TpH3gIzxN2I/AAAAAAAAAIs/-oO4_5tsHoU/s220/KrethxCover150x150.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25634207716108558.post-915766341282045711</id><published>2010-06-01T12:43:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2010-07-21T14:44:43.754-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Workshop Progress</title><content type='html'>I finished up all the core projects in the &lt;a href="http://greenleafworkshops.com/"&gt;Greenleaf Writer's Workshop&lt;/a&gt;  and am now set to write the first 10,000 words of the comedic fantasy  book.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Am I ready though? Hmmm. I think so. I have read a buttload  of books over the last few months to see the various methodologies that  people employ. Some writers are quite funny, some are mildly humorous,  and some aren't really funny at all in the actual writing but their  plots  and situations are humorous. It also goes from book to book. For  example, I found the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Pyramids &lt;/span&gt;book  by Terry Pratchett to be funny in plot but I found little to laugh  about during the actual read. However, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Interesting  Times&lt;/span&gt; has laughs throughout as did &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Thud&lt;/span&gt;. Robert Asprin's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Myth  Adventures&lt;/span&gt; series is quite humorous, but I wouldn't call it  funny, and his &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Dragon's Luck&lt;/span&gt;  series wasn't funny at all to me. A. Lee Martinez's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;In the Company of Ogres&lt;/span&gt; was humorous  with a bunch of funny thrown in, but &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Monster  &lt;/span&gt;didn't elicit a single laugh from me even though it was a cool  idea, and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Divine Misfortune &lt;/span&gt;was  a very humorous idea but I didn't really laugh at much of it...&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Too Many Curses&lt;/span&gt;, though, was a great  read with a humorous twitch (though, again, not funny funny). &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy&lt;/span&gt; is  certainly humorous and classic, but as I re-read the book I found myself  laughing mostly at the situations and not at all at the character  interactions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm not putting any of these books down. I really  enjoyed reading them all (okay, the Dragon's Luck ones weren't all that  great), but the purpose of reading them was to see the various  approaches to comedic fantasy and how successful authors accomplish it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I  seem to have more of a Terry Pratchett style sense of humor, which is  interesting considering that I've been writing comedic stuff like that  for the last 25 years and have just started reading his books over the  past year. It feels very much like Monty Python. Don't get me wrong, I'm  not saying I'm anywhere near his caliber...I'm just saying that the way  I have my characters interact feels a bit similar. I would be beyond  pleased to learn that I even half pulled off the comedic talent that Mr.  Pratchett does in most of his books.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am going to write the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Whizzfiddle Adventures&lt;/span&gt; story &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;A Quest of Undoing&lt;/span&gt;, but I already  have started plotting a comedic s.f. story that I could see turning into  a series if all goes well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At first I was concerned that writing  comedic fantasy and science fiction would just get a bunch of "Oh, he's  copying Pratchett" or "Oh, he's copying Adams" type of comments. But  when I look at the bookshelves, I see tons of middle earth books and  space adventures. There are very few unique ideas, which is why there  are tons of fantasy and s.f. books out there that all seem to have the  same premise (or pretty damn close to the same).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pick up 20  fantasy books and see how many relate to a story about a royal born that  has to somehow get back the kingdom (or close to it). I did this  exercise yesterday and found a staggering 17 out of 20 books I picked up  had this basic plot. Shocking.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I guess one could say that all  s.f. writers are copying Asimov or Heinlein or (I could go on), and  certainly all fantasy writers are copying Tolkien...right?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I  no longer worry about being similar to Pratchett or Martinez or Moore or  Adams or Asprin or...etc. Heck, I would be beyond honored to even be  remotely compared to any of these awesome writers. I'm just hopeful that  I at least land at humorous while I'm attempting funny.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25634207716108558-915766341282045711?l=johnplogsdon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/feeds/915766341282045711/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/06/workshop-progress.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/915766341282045711'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/915766341282045711'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/06/workshop-progress.html' title='Workshop Progress'/><author><name>KrethX</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q6RKGam_muA/TpH3gIzxN2I/AAAAAAAAAIs/-oO4_5tsHoU/s220/KrethxCover150x150.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25634207716108558.post-4644245101285739250</id><published>2010-05-13T13:21:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2010-07-21T14:44:05.905-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Book reviews are rough</title><content type='html'>As I'm working my way through this writer's workshop, there are a number  of really cool assignments. The one I'm currently working on is a  scene-by-scene report on a comedic book that I selected ("Heroics for  Beginners", by John Moore...if you're interested).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I expected  that this would be a simple project, but it's actually quite rough. I'm  about 60% through the review and already have 40 pages worth of scene  layouts!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I thought that a scene was essentially cut-and-dry. As  I'm going through this exercise, though,  I'm finding that most authors  merge two (or more) scenes together all the time. If I just snagged  sections instead of scenes then I would be at only 15-20 pages of data.  As a quick looksee, I thumbed through a few other books and found that  some authors are more definitive in their scenes and don't merge very  often.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the most interesting bits is that stories are  actually quite slow. I never really noticed this because authors always  push the action. But if you pick up five different books and just write  down one line of description, you'll see that the flow of a story is  really slow. This is for most books anyway. If the action matches the  flow, the book is horrifically boring. If the flow matches the action,  the reader feels too rushed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, this is rough but it's quite  an interesting assignment that is really opening my eyes to some of the  methodology behind how published authors get into genre-based formulaic  writing.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25634207716108558-4644245101285739250?l=johnplogsdon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/feeds/4644245101285739250/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/05/book-reviews-are-rough.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/4644245101285739250'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/4644245101285739250'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/05/book-reviews-are-rough.html' title='Book reviews are rough'/><author><name>KrethX</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q6RKGam_muA/TpH3gIzxN2I/AAAAAAAAAIs/-oO4_5tsHoU/s220/KrethxCover150x150.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25634207716108558.post-6114904522282807492</id><published>2010-04-19T17:47:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2010-07-21T14:43:40.012-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='General'/><title type='text'>First assignment results</title><content type='html'>I had to write up a story evaluation sheet for the workshop and I got  the response back from the instructor that all was good! As he put it:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div  style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; color: rgb(102, 0, 0);font-family:lucida grande;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;You’ve got everything you need for a good  start,&lt;br /&gt;and you’ve left me with nothing to whine about. I’m&lt;br /&gt;looking  forward to your next assignment.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That means  that my next assignment will be obliterated. :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm finding that  doing this workshop is really forcing me to push through things that I  usually don't worry about. One can only hope that at the end of all this  I'll have a story that's decent, and I'll carry even more hope that the  writing is decent too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Up next is the deep dive on character  creation.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25634207716108558-6114904522282807492?l=johnplogsdon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/feeds/6114904522282807492/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/04/first-assignment-results.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/6114904522282807492'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/6114904522282807492'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/04/first-assignment-results.html' title='First assignment results'/><author><name>KrethX</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q6RKGam_muA/TpH3gIzxN2I/AAAAAAAAAIs/-oO4_5tsHoU/s220/KrethxCover150x150.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25634207716108558.post-2900933283963493326</id><published>2010-04-07T15:14:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2010-07-21T14:43:03.250-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='General'/><title type='text'>Going with comedy</title><content type='html'>While I have come to the conclusion that comedic writing is likely the  harder than serious writing, I'm going to go for it anyway.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I  spent the last couple of weeks re-reading Hitchhiker's Guide,  Myth-Adventures, and a couple of Terry Pratchett books. None of them (to  me) are really knock-you-off-your-feet hilarity. They have some funny  little bits in them, sure, and many of the concepts are cute as well.  But mostly these stories are just fun to read.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you look at  the plot for any of these you will see that if they had wanted to, the  writers could have just gone the serious route. That they didn't tells  me that they have more fun writing in the lighthearted manner. I seem to  gravitate toward this as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, while I'm by no means dumping  the serious fantasy book that I've got in the works, I have decided to  use the comedic concept for the writing workshop.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wish me luck!  :D&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25634207716108558-2900933283963493326?l=johnplogsdon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/feeds/2900933283963493326/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/04/going-with-comedy.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/2900933283963493326'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/2900933283963493326'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/04/going-with-comedy.html' title='Going with comedy'/><author><name>KrethX</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q6RKGam_muA/TpH3gIzxN2I/AAAAAAAAAIs/-oO4_5tsHoU/s220/KrethxCover150x150.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25634207716108558.post-3264434647723285511</id><published>2010-04-02T14:25:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2010-07-21T14:42:12.628-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Character Interviews</title><content type='html'>I got this tip from my friend, &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.crfinch.com/"&gt;Chris Finch&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When writing a  fictional piece, interview your characters. I know it sounds silly, but  would you write a non-fictional piece about someone or something without  interviewing people? Well, come to think of it, maybe you would.  However, it would be much more credible and interesting if you  interviewed people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fiction, though, you simply must. If you  don't you will end up with one-dimensional characters.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"No," you  argue, "I know my characters because they're based on people in my  life!"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fair enough. Have you interviewed those people then?  Particulary, have you interviewed them in the setting that you'll be  placing them?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Aunt Betty's a great character in your life, sure.  How is she on the planet Vlarn? Maybe people on Vlarn don't like Aunt  Betty's brand of sense of humor. How does she handle that? If she just  keeps being Aunt Betty, that's cool, until she winds up dead. (Man, I  hope your little planet of Vlarn is nicer than that!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There's  another, more important reason to interview your characters: you are the  actor. Eh? That's right, Skipper. You see, when you write you have to  constantly change perspectives from one character to the next. If you  don't then all your characters will act, sound, and respond identically.  That's unrealistic, boring, and one-dimensional. What do the best  actors out there do when faced with a new role? Study. They study and  then they become that which they are trying to portray. Same for your  writing. You have to be the actor on all your characters.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Actually,  you have to be the writer, the director, the producer, and the actors.  You're a one-man band!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now how are you supposed to have realistic  characters if all of them act like you do? You can't. So, interview  them, learn to be them, and then welcome yourself to the psychotic world  of character-switching.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When you have your protagonist and  antagonist facing off and you can feel the rage of the protagonist as  her sword misses--YET AGAIN--your antagonist, and then you suddenly  switch and can feel the elation of side-stepping yet another of that  bitch's childish volleys...why, then...then you know you've got  characters.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, how?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Simple. You're you, the character is  the character. You ask a question as you would, then you change into  your character and answer as he would.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Simple? Well, no. Not at  first anyway. But pretty soon you'll get good at this. And then soon  after that you'll need therapy, all ten of you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After doing a few  of these, read them back and see where you answer as yourself and where  you answer as your character. Practice this exercise and you'll get  better as the interviews go on. Pretty soon you'll be able to switch  from character to character so fast that you'll be unstoppable (or  within a padded cell).&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25634207716108558-3264434647723285511?l=johnplogsdon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/feeds/3264434647723285511/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/04/character-interviews.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/3264434647723285511'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/3264434647723285511'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/04/character-interviews.html' title='Character Interviews'/><author><name>KrethX</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q6RKGam_muA/TpH3gIzxN2I/AAAAAAAAAIs/-oO4_5tsHoU/s220/KrethxCover150x150.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25634207716108558.post-522915582319989180</id><published>2010-04-02T12:41:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2010-07-21T14:41:29.125-04:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='General'/><title type='text'>Back to writing</title><content type='html'>After (finally) finishing college, I decided it was time to quit mucking  around and actually write a couple of novels. Yes, it's a daunting job  doing such. Yes, I know there is only a 1 and 8,500 chance of getting  published. Yes, I know that there is only a 1 in a million chance of  turning into a professional writer. But, as Terry Pratchett points out  in his "Guards! Guards!" book, it's only the 1 in a million chances that  actually happen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;About two months before I graduated, I started  looking into various workshops so that I could better educate myself on  the process. I had taken a couple of writing classes and attended  workshops before, but I was looking for something with more meat to it  this time. After much ado, I decided on the &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://greenleafworkshops.com/"&gt;Greenleaf Workshop&lt;/a&gt;. If you  read all of the workshop descriptions out there and compare them to this  guy, his just makes sense. Why listen to the advice of other  non-published authors when you can get some hand-holding from someone  who is published and who still makes a living writing?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's been  30 days since I started and so far I'm quite impressed with the  workshop. There was a good 400+ pages in the handbook. That took me a  couple of weeks to fully digest. I found it well written and devoid of  fluff. In a nutshell, it made sense to me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a lot of  work to do in this workshop, but when all is said and done I should have  the first 10,000 words of my novel written. Then I'll move onto the  advanced workshop and finish up the rest (have to save a few pennies for  that one anyway, so it'll be a while).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For now, at least I'm  back to writing! (yay)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/25634207716108558-522915582319989180?l=johnplogsdon.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/feeds/522915582319989180/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/07/back-to-writing.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/522915582319989180'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/25634207716108558/posts/default/522915582319989180'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://johnplogsdon.blogspot.com/2010/07/back-to-writing.html' title='Back to writing'/><author><name>KrethX</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Q6RKGam_muA/TpH3gIzxN2I/AAAAAAAAAIs/-oO4_5tsHoU/s220/KrethxCover150x150.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
